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Ghost nets

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:28 am
by Toni

RE:Ghost nets

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:44 pm
by shawn
Thanks for forwarding that to the site.But watching it sucks.I'm not a friend of gil nets at all.But that is a another thing.Thanks again.

RE:Ghost nets

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 3:03 pm
by A9
More proof to the misuse of nets by commercial and tribal fishermen....

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:53 pm
by Derrick-k
Another reason to hate gill nets.

RE:Ghost nets

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:39 pm
by Toni
Sam Kafelafish wrote:More proof to the misuse of nets by commercial and tribal fishermen....
I don't think they are misusing. They accidentally lose the nets and in WA there is a fine if you lose one. Not only are they out the cost of the net (up to $2500) but have a fine to deal with as well. What sense is that?
Now don’t get me wrong-I don’t like gill nets either.
It is not that way in Oregon. They call in and then someone goes out to try and find it.

RE:Ghost nets

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:15 pm
by Derrick-k
If they get rid of the fine, then people will be more likely to report lost nets, maybe save a few fish.

RE:Ghost nets

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:48 pm
by A9
Toni wrote:
Sam Kafelafish wrote:More proof to the misuse of nets by commercial and tribal fishermen....
I don't think they are misusing. They accidentally lose the nets and in WA there is a fine if you lose one. Not only are they out the cost of the net (up to $2500) but have a fine to deal with as well. What sense is that?
Now don’t get me wrong-I don’t like gill nets either.
It is not that way in Oregon. They call in and then someone goes out to try and find it.
It's not too easy to lose a net...

RE:Ghost nets

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 11:53 pm
by Toni
Sam Kafelafish wrote:
Toni wrote:
Sam Kafelafish wrote:More proof to the misuse of nets by commercial and tribal fishermen....
I don't think they are misusing. They accidentally lose the nets and in WA there is a fine if you lose one. Not only are they out the cost of the net (up to $2500) but have a fine to deal with as well. What sense is that?
Now don’t get me wrong-I don’t like gill nets either.
It is not that way in Oregon. They call in and then someone goes out to try and find it.
It's not too easy to lose a net...
Sam, just wondering. have you ever went on a gillnetter boat or worked on one?

RE:Ghost nets

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:07 am
by A9
Negative. Talked with indians who gillnetters though....They told me it's tough to lose a net...

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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:34 am
by Toni
Sam Kafelafish wrote:Negative. Talked with indians who gillnetters though....They told me it's tough to lose a net...
If the net is old and the float line(I think thats what it is called) fails then it is possible for it to get away. The nets have to have up kept just like boats , if they aren't taken care of they fail.

This is just for me...is there a way that the commercial fishing (tribal and non-tribal) not use gill nets but still fish for a living?

RE:Ghost nets

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:00 am
by A9
Toni wrote:
Sam Kafelafish wrote:Negative. Talked with indians who gillnetters though....They told me it's tough to lose a net...
If the net is old and the float line(I think thats what it is called) fails then it is possible for it to get away. The nets have to have up kept just like boats , if they aren't taken care of they fail.
Then it's the negligence on the part of the netters for not keeping their gear in good condition.....](*,) ](*,)

RE:Ghost nets

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:47 am
by JimLyons
That is horrible to watch but a grim reality. I do feel Native Americans deserve the treaties they signed, but gill netting need to be outlawed for everyone. The daily devestaion to the whole eco system must stop. For being at the top of the food chain us humans are pretty dumb.:-#

RE:Ghost nets

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:22 am
by AdsBot [Google]
Thanks for posting this. I did a presentation at Gonzaga about Ghost nets destroying our ecosystem. Thanks again for posting this information because it really does have a drastic impact on all fisheries.

RE:Ghost nets

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:44 pm
by gpc
Good video Toni thanks for sharing. Those nets do get really expensive. I worked at a batting cage for 3 years in high school. The nets brand new for the entire batting cage was in the $20,000 range. We tried to buy used ones from fisherman and they were still too expensive to get new ones.


They have a similar problem with commercial crab pots that get lost. Acctually not just commercial all lost crab pots. There is a few people that are allowed to retrieve them, but there is a lot of B.S. you have to go through to retrieve abandoned pots. The state says even though the pots are abandoned, they are still someones and its the same as steeling if you retrieve their pots w/o the right permits, stupid.