Re: Baker Lake Harsh Wardens
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:30 am
Don't care one way or the other...but will consider the source...
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7/19/12, 8:34amfishenfreak wrote:Well, later in the morning, we were marking a lot of fish and hooked up on a double header, well i already had 2 fish on my card and my buddy had none. Well we were each fighting a fish, and it just so happened that my buddies fish came off and mine stayed on, I was going to hand off the rod but we had a double, and by the time he lost his, mine was tired. To make a long story short, we netted the fish, and yes, i fought the fish for the majority of the fight, and we marked it on my buddies card so i wouldnt have 3 fish limit on my card...
7/19/12, 12:04pmfishenfreak wrote:Like i said i admitted that i fought the fish more the majority of the time because we hooked another fish and kockman had to grab it, but come on... A ticket for fighting his fish for the last half because he had another fish on? What a bUnch of bull... We had 2 punches each, doing everything legal ect... The ticket isnt gonna hold up in court because the ticket is for fishing after retaining limit, but i had only 2 punches on my card. He said because he handed off to me it should of been my 3rd even tho we marked it on kockmans card. It wont hold in court because i only have 2 punches for the day.
7/20/12, 9:59amfishenfreak wrote:And you are right, like i said, i know the situation of having a double header and reeling in the fish caused me to brake the law, im not complaining about that, it was just the whole situation him following me just cause i was catching fish, he was just waiting to jump on something, when he could have been at the launch checking every boat that comes in, would have been much more useful... What a petty little thing to spend so much time on is what made me a little angry.
7/21/12, 10:10amfishenfreak wrote:What happened was my buddy set the hook with MY ROD because he hadnt caught one. Then. 10 seconds later his rod gets hammered. So he hands the rod back to me to fight his own. He then loses his fish and the one i have is finished and 2 feet from the boat. So we net and mark on his card cause it was originally suppose to be his fish but i ended up being forced to reel him in. Kinda confusing and dumb i got a ticket for it. THE GAME WARDEN MADE UP THE MAJORITY THING... Wtf.
7/21/12, 2:30pmfishenfreak wrote:My buddy was suppose to reel the fish in, we had planned to have him reel in whatever fish bit any pole next. The double header forced me to reel the one fish in, but i figured since he set the hook and the fish was suppose to be his in the first place, that we were in our rights to mark it on his card, even tho i had to reel the fish in after he handed it back to me.
For me, there are too many inconsistencies in your chronological description of the events. On 7/20/12 you state you took control of your rod 10 seconds after your buddy set the hook because his rod got hammered. Why didn't you just take his rod and let him fight the fish using the rod he set the hook on? What difference does it make "who's" rod it was since the rods aren't licensed to the angler? Nowhere do you state the rod was ever returned to your buddy prior to the fish being netted leading me to the conclusion you played the fish from 10 seconds after hookup to the net. If this occurred in MY boat, you'd mark your card, you are tagged out, your rods get stowed, end of discussion. Had you done this, or had you taken his rod when it got hammered, no citation would have been issued and this debate wouldn't exist - case closed.fishenfreak wrote:My buddy hadnt caught a fish all day, and he put on some new gear and got the bite, he switched it up and got a fish, he was rewarded for his change! But unfortunately i had to reel HIS fish in because another rod went off, since he did all that work to get his first bite, regardless of who reeled it in, we thought hell yea its your fish you were smart enough to switch it up and get a bite, who cares if i reeled it in?....I reeled a fish in that my buddy did all the work to set up the gear, bait the hook and set the hook and hold the rod until the fish was under control, because i merely reeled it in, in my opinion, DOES NOT mean that it must go on my card.
So you feel it is your buddy's fish and he should mark his card for it because he did all the work except reel the fish in.fishenfreak wrote:I reeled a fish in that my buddy did all the work to set up the gear, bait the hook and set the hook and hold the rod until the fish was under control, because i merely reeled it in, in my opinion, DOES NOT mean that it must go on my card.
Now who's fish is it?? Using your logic about the ticket would mean every client you do this for doesn't have to mark their tag and every fish caught, even though you didn't reel it in, counts toward YOUR limit.I reeled a fish in that my GUIDE did all the work to set up the gear, bait the hook, set the hook and hold the rod until the fish was under control, but because i merely reeled it in, in my opinion, it DOES NOT mean that it must go on my card.
Bodofish wrote:It's a perfect use of the word and not off base at all, he doesn't deserve to be bullied by any of the posters telling him to just buck and take his punishment. There is no punishment to take unless the Judge deems it so.dutchman2858 wrote:Bodofish: You are absolutely correct that "freak" has the right to go to court...but your "...you goons..." comment is off base. "Fishenfreak" initiated the thread to express his outrage at what he perceived as mistreatment by the wardens, and to garner vindication from other members for that outrage. He got plenty...but he also got disagreement with his position. Those dissention opionions are also guaranteed by the Constitution.
While the court decision will settle the issue of this ticket...it will not have any affect on "Fishenfreaks" (or your) opinions. If the court sides with him and dismisses the charge he will get his vindication and be able to crow, "I was right!" If the court upholds the ticket and fines him, he will state, "They made a mistake...if they had understood what really happened they would have dismissed the ticket!" That's no condemnation of "Freak" it's human nature. Good thread, though!
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correction made!goodtimesfishing wrote:hewesfisher did the color...not motoboat....just saying.
good luck at court.
Opinions, we all have them, and it's hewesfisher btw.fishenfreak wrote:going through all that trouble was ridiculous hewescrafter,
Doesn't bother me a bit.fishenfreak wrote:OK ps how does being blasted with the rainbow feel?
So those 2 could get in some free on-the-clock fishing.bigskyx wrote:Good news! I'm not impressed with local law enforcement but our judges are very reasonable IME. I still can't get over that this snake followed you around all morning. I suppose he was on the clock & burning government gas, for what??
reelinanrockin wrote:This is pure bs by this "warden" I sent a link to this thread to the director Phil Andersen and I hope he reads it. That way he will get a ear full on what we people who buy licenses and tackle to fish think about his fish cops on the water who pull this crapola off on us.
Since this is the largest fishing website in the Pacific N.W., I'm pretty sure that someone in the WDFW has already read this thread, based on the title of it alone.fishenfreak wrote:reelinanrockin wrote:This is pure bs by this "warden" I sent a link to this thread to the director Phil Andersen and I hope he reads it. That way he will get a ear full on what we people who buy licenses and tackle to fish think about his fish cops on the water who pull this crapola off on us.
I sent them a cute little letter as well