Nymphing vs. swinging

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Re: Nymphing vs. swinging

Post by jumpinjim » Tue Jul 16, 2013 1:41 pm

Cool idea for a thread.

A great analogy for this thread can be captured within the previous post.

Flyrods with Indicators are a kin to Drift Boats on a Lake.

I have a drift boat and I take it on the lake and lay some slaughters down... I even have people say, hey sweet boat... Sometimes I out fish everyone around, but none of that means my Drift boat is designed for a lake. I have to add ballast weight to the bow, the wind blows we around and My electric motor has a chunk of PVC pipe hanging off so I can sit in the rowers seat semi balancing my weight and still operate the motor. See my drift boat was not designed for being on a lake. I have tinkered around with it and made it work because I don't care to have a fleet of vessels, but at the end of the day I know why I have it, because I like to row rivers not lakes.

See flyrods and indicators are similar, a fly rod is designed technically for casting an un-weighted fly or a fly with such a small weight the casting motion requires a special rod for distance. You choose your cast, but that is the reason, now if you want to add split shot and a bobber and toss it out there so you can fish a bobber and nymph or worm or blob of what ever on a fly rod, sweet. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, I take my driftboat out on the lake, but I would not sit and tell you that it was designed for the lake, and certainly not that there are no other boats designed for a higher level of function on a lake.

For this reason I would say a person that wanted to claim a drift boat was a lake boat or that fishing a bluefox #4 on a sage is flyfishing is more than likely in denial, and probably just wants to feel approval. I mean after all now a days if your kid is born a female, and you and the kid would prefer to be a male all you need to do is petition the court, sue people and the child is now a male. How God, Evolution or what ever you believe in nature controls these things is irrelevant. We all get to make our own reality.

Before I go off on too much of a Rant, I am not at all saying that people who Nymph are Transgender .... NOT AT ALL!

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Re: Nymphing vs. swinging

Post by natetreat » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:21 pm

Oh no. Who says you need to use and indicator and a split shot? I don't. Just a stonefly something and and egg pattern. Light as can be.

This argument is a dumb one. By your logic, giant intruder patterns and heavy sink tips aren't fly fishing either. At least a nymph is imitating the life stage of a fly, an intruder is what? A dragon fly?

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Re: Nymphing vs. swinging

Post by natetreat » Tue Jul 16, 2013 4:22 pm

Bodofish wrote:Maiden this afternoon!!! a little lake row last minute, pics for sure!!!!! River next!!!! Can't wait!!!!
It's getting skinny! Where are you planning on drifting? You may have to get out and push over some of the riffles if you wait too long.

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Re: Nymphing vs. swinging

Post by Bodofish » Tue Jul 16, 2013 11:04 pm

The story's in the boating section. Maybe Thursday on the sky. Not too worried about getting out and walking a bit, it's hot and the waters cool. I like the Sultan to Lewis Street drift.
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Re: Nymphing vs. swinging

Post by jumpinjim » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:07 am

natetreat wrote:Oh no. Who says you need to use and indicator and a split shot? I don't. Just a stonefly something and and egg pattern. Light as can be.
No one said you need split shot and an indicator. But if you did rig that up on a fly rod it would be a kin to taking a drift boat on the lake. No one said you can't Nymph without that set up, and I think it is rad that you are doing all the things you do in such proficiency. Luckily you did read my post since you got the Light tackle part, but I think you want to argue which is why you misinterpret what I say.
natetreat wrote:This argument is a dumb one.
You started this thread so I figure you were looking for a dumb argument from a bait slinging purist such as myself.
natetreat wrote:By your logic, giant intruder patterns and heavy sink tips aren't fly fishing either.
Technically I clearly said we all get to define what everything is for ourselves, really read that article from the Denver Post. But if you ignore my attempt at humor, I would like you to re-read my post and then tell me what type of equipment would best cast a heavy sink tip and an intruder? Off hand I am going to say you are going to be looking at a heavy action single hand or double hand. If you want to spey cast a single hand, can you call it spey casting? YES, CAN YOU DO IT ALL DAY LONG, YES, BUT YOUR TAKING THE DRIFT BOAT ON THE LAKE.

Where did I write anything about flies and patterns defining what flyfishing is. I am not even trying to do that, you are.

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Re: Nymphing vs. swinging

Post by natetreat » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:59 pm

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Hahahaha! Purists are like Jehovah's Witnesses. They'll knock on every thread on the internet until everyone agrees with them.

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Re: Nymphing vs. swinging

Post by jumpinjim » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:56 pm

Your Hypocrisy knows no bounds Mr. Treat.

I am not sure why you feel it is appropriate to start attacking people's religion and beliefs in a thread about fishing ... but I will leave that to the experts.

So, Nate how many drift boats have you owned? and When did you start rowing a drift boat?

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Re: Nymphing vs. swinging

Post by natetreat » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:58 pm

jumpinjim wrote:Your Hypocrisy knows no bounds Mr. Treat.

I am not sure why you feel it is appropriate to start attacking people's religion and beliefs in a thread about fishing ... but I will leave that to the experts.

So, Nate how many drift boats have you owned? and When did you start rowing a drift boat?
I'll leave it at that jumpinjim. Have a good day.

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Re: Nymphing vs. swinging

Post by jumpinjim » Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:21 pm

I wish you would just answer me, I feel really hurt that I have had to ask you so many times. Luckily like any fisherman I am persistent so you can count on me to keep on at it one cast after another...

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Re: Nymphing vs. swinging

Post by Steelheadin360 » Thu Jul 18, 2013 5:41 am

Jumpinjim, go back to fishchan

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Re: Nymphing vs. swinging

Post by jumpinjim » Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:58 am

Whoa steelheadin360 I had never been over there, just checked it out.

I am not going to lie, there are some characters it would seem, but too much porn and fowl language. Is that why you suggested that I check it out? I have thick skin so I closed the page before my browsers filter settings exploded and just figured you were having fun.

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