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washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:30 pm
by Derrick-k
Bass in washington are very prevolent, at least we have good hatchery programs in washington to keep the lake's full of nice fish, be it bass crappie bulegill sunfish muskie pike or rrainbow cutthroat brook and brown trout.
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:36 pm
by Drewp
Ummm, no. And you should definitely not kill bass! They aren't nearly as big of a trout predator as you would think. Trout's biggest predator is you, and all other catch and keep fisherman. Bald Eagles and Osprey are huge trout predators...I supose your solution would include killing all of them to help out the trout?
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:01 pm
by gpc
Bass and trout can live in the same lake together and be fine. Some of the best trout lakes in the state also are the best bass and walleye lakes as well. But illegally planting bass or any fish in any lake is a bad thing, a very bad thing. Some lakes will advise you to kill sunfish and bass that were planted illegally. But there is reasons for that. One reason is there is a stunted population and they are eating all the food, another reason is they wont make it through certain times of the year. Then if it gets too out of control they will kill off the entire lake. In some situations the bass or any fish will grow to great size and numbers and are able to co-op together and they keep the fish in there. But either way its not a good idea to take the matter into your own hands.
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:37 pm
by littleriver
I caught an 18" brown trout once that had a little 3 or 4 inch largemouth bass in it's stomach..
so trout apparently eat bass from time to time..
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:59 pm
by Dustin07
littleriver wrote:I caught an 18" brown trout once that had a little 3 or 4 inch largemouth bass in it's stomach..
so trout apparently eat bass from time to time..
LOL. that's awesome.
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:51 pm
by tnj8222
lol gotta be carefull there are alot of bass heads on this site but i also fish for trout and panfish. there are many many lakes where bass and trout live together just fine.
but lakes like davis should not have had bass put in it. but you should never take it upon yourself to kill anyfish unless it is food.
what i am mad about is people killing other fish because there favorite fish competes for food with the fish they dont like.
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:45 pm
by bpm2000
people also dont seem to realize that a lot of trout species are non-native as well.
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:01 pm
by Bigbass Dez
I dont think that Killing bass in any lake any where in america is a good ideal period . Too even suggest that tells me alot your nature derrick ! we are sportsman and fisherman of many types of fish , and True sportmans would not make comments like this .please tell me your kidding ? how would you feel if someone said lets kill all the trout and replace them with bass ? i dont like your comment dude ! AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A FISHERMAN , I CAN THINK OF A BETTER WORD .....but what good would it do ...GRRRR ....

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RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:30 pm
by fishnislife
Drewp wrote:Ummm, no. And you should definitely not kill bass! They aren't nearly as big of a trout predator as you would think. Trout's biggest predator is you, and all other catch and keep fisherman. Bald Eagles and Osprey are huge trout predators...I supose your solution would include killing all of them to help out the trout?
Or we could just kill and eat each other like fish do. That would help us out and the fish too.
Bass eat more of themselves than any other species.
I agree with Drewp on this one Derrick-k. The biggest predator of the trout species is catch and keep fisherman. This is the most detrimental thing to a species than anything else. Mother nature has a way of controlling itself (balancing) and we are the ones who screw it up.
Why do you think trout have to be stocked so often. Most lakes are like an aquarium. Or a holding tank for trout just waiting to get to the dinner plate.
If you threw a handful of trout in a strictly bass lake, I bet in a couple of years you would have both species successfully co-existing with healthy fish of both species.
Ever fished a catch and release only fishery? The only way to go. Best fishing ever.
fishnislife
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:50 pm
by CK14
fishnislife wrote:Bass eat more of themselves than any other species.
that reminds me of an ad in an old issue of bass master magazine...
Man vs. Bass
Man: Teaches his children how to fish
Bass: Eats its children
Advantage: Man
i always loved that ad. LOL
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:33 pm
by jbball50
Another thing is that some species are able to survive better in some areas of water than others because of what is in the water and all that biological bs that they do studies with on lakes.
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:43 am
by GJorgy
You have to think of it as a balance of opportunities. When the water is cooler the trout are active and taste great, in the warmer months when the trout dont taste as good (think mud) then the bass are active and alot of fun to catch. If you don't limit yourself to a single species then you will probably save yourself alot of grief and frustration. I've personally hit bass that were pushing 8 or 9 pounds. Not many lakes around here that can boast a trout over 5 pounds except for the trips and the broodstock they plant.
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:17 pm
by panfisher
this is the same attitude i've seen with small lakes that are basically put and take trout fisheries. i've seen the (managers) of these lakes kill off a lake that had an awsome panfishery just so they can put hatchery trout back in it. i guess that i've never seen bass wipe out a trout population. seems to me it's more than likely the improper management by the fishing public, not to many bass will eat 8-14'' trout but i know many people that do! <')//<
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:19 pm
by EdmondsBassMan
I would just like to echo what others have said here. That is an insane statement and I hope after reading all these comments your attitude has changed. I would like to add that how often do you see bass fishermen lined up elbow to elbow on opening day trying to catch everything in a particular lake. I'm originally from NJ and I would not even think of going fishing on opening day for trout because it was a total zoo! If you like trout so much buy them at the store they are the same ones you are catching all grown on a farm! Have a nice day and may you catch a big bass!
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:40 am
by YellowBear
If you limit yourself to one species you are missing out on some great fishing.
I like to fish for Trout in the winter when the water is cold and the fish are firm.
In the spring as things begin to warm a bit I turn my attention to the Walleye.
When the water temps start to hit the 50s its Bassin time.
On those slow days I am more than happy to catch a bunch of Panfish.
Nothing beats a good night on the bank with a buddy or two setting hooks on the Catfish.
If you want some tackle bustin action try the lowly Carp.
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:30 pm
by Derrick-k
It may not be non native fish eating all the trout, but ocasionaly they can overrun them in smaller lakes.
I agree that people are a big preadetor of trout, but how comee everyone always thinks that it is such a crime to kill a bass.
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:32 pm
by Kenster
i've seen more salmon smolt in a pike minnow!!!! big deal!! ive caught trout who have wasted my time while i was targeting bass... guess what ...I ATE them!! trout fishing is for kids!! Okay LOL!! even if i caught a bass and gilled him to the point of no return i would fillet him too! i fish for sport, but will eat not to waste.

RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:53 pm
by dbaker
Kenster way to insult probably half the membership of this site.
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:05 am
by Derrick-k
thank you dbaker, even though I an a huskie fan lol!
RE:washington hatchery fisheries
Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:08 pm
by dbaker
so you're not perfect.

At least you like to fish.