Vehicle break-ins at boat launch

[ResQ]

Thats bringing up a great point about what Wa state lacks. A great, MANDATORY handgun class before getting your conceal to carry permit. I was shocked to find out how easy it was. I end up educating people who think they can just pop someone because they are breaking into a vehicle or even fighting with someone else. There needs to be a course with proper safety and more importantly, education.

[crappiemaster]

There is a lake where I live that is full of bullfrogs. We use to go and catch our limits by spotlighting and gigging them. Never had any issues until a few years ago when it became the hangout for people to do drugs and party. People's cars were getting broken into and even now, during the winter when folks are out duck huntimg, you always here of the poor guy rig that got broken into. I miss those frog legs, you can still here them croaking like crazy during a warm summer night, but I also know the risk that I would be taking. I alway carry, just because you never know, but I also try to avoid high risk areas, even though the fishing or hunting might be extraordinary. I don't avoid them because of the people that hang out there, but by how I would react in anger and would have to answer up to later. I just don't want to be put in that situation. There is not enough frog legs or fish that would be worth it.

[Rich McVey]

Thats bringing up a great point about what Wa state lacks. A great, MANDATORY handgun class before getting your conceal to carry permit. I was shocked to find out how easy it was. I end up educating people who think they can just pop someone because they are breaking into a vehicle or even fighting with someone else. There needs to be a course with proper safety and more importantly, education.

I agree, there should be more education required. A written test at minimum. A booklet like the DMV has with the basic information. Personally, Im looking at taking some classes at Wades in Bellevue even though I have military training, years of shooting experience, NRA Hunter Safety Classes, and have taken it upon myself to get familiar with the laws.


Back to the launch... I think rachet straps and a couple fast food bags are about all that a crook would see in my truck. Well, actually the wifes truck so not many tools.

What about trucks with alarms? Do they get passed by or do they get hit about as much?

[ResQ]

but by how I would react in anger and would have to answer up to later. I just don't want to be put in that situation. There is not enough frog legs or fish that would be worth it.

And that is why some people shouldnt carry. Letting anger cloud good judgement. A gun is not something that is for intimidation, but for life fearing protection. That is where a written test or classes should be madatory. But you are right that there isnt enough legs, fish or any animals really worth that.

[FissKisher]

Hey guys, I'm new to walakes.com. Thieves are unfortunate, and I have had my share of belongings stolen in the past. I am a certified auto electronics installer, and if anyone would like an alarm system installed into their rig, email me. I use bright blue LED lights in my own truck, and that seems to act as a visual theft deterrent. Anyways, let me know if anyone's interested.

[ResQ]

but by how I would react in anger and would have to answer up to later. I just don't want to be put in that situation. There is not enough frog legs or fish that would be worth it.

And that is why some people shouldnt carry. Letting anger cloud good judgement. A gun is not something that is for intimidation, but for life fearing protection. That is where a written test or classes should be madatory. But you are right that there isnt enough legs, fish or any animals really worth that.

Let me clarify. Im really not picking on you saying you shouldnt carry, but there are alot of people who would/do act stupid out of anger instead of taking a step back and actually think first.

[Mike Carey]

but by how I would react in anger and would have to answer up to later. I just don't want to be put in that situation. There is not enough frog legs or fish that would be worth it.

And that is why some people shouldnt carry. Letting anger cloud good judgement. A gun is not something that is for intimidation, but for life fearing protection. That is where a written test or classes should be madatory. But you are right that there isnt enough legs, fish or any animals really worth that.

When I got my permit this information was provided by the Redmond Police Department. It's a sad state of affairs that people no longer have good judgement. Pretty soon we'll need a test to be allowed to cross the street.

[Rich McVey]

Just a thought... I have Sentry software for my PC. It senses movement and records audio and video. Also picking up a home security system.

I wonder how hard it would be to install a compact embedded controller and some cameras in the truck. If a break in does occur, then at least you have evidence for the police.

Any thoughts?

[ResQ]

That would be fantastic Rich! If you can safely catch the D-bags and have video proof of them and their faces to catch them, then that is THE way to go!

[crappiemaster]

Feelings weren't hurt ResQ. My partner is my 13 yr old son, and I will protect him anyway necessary. I don't own anything that I take fishing that would warrant any kind of snap decision with a firearm. There are worse things that can happen out there other than my car being burglarized. I guess that is why people carry, especially if you are responsible for someone else. There are a lot of rattlesnakes where I fish, buckshot is a necessary too just in case.

[racfish]

One thing else is not only buying a handgun but the knowledge of shooting it. Taking it to the range and firing it. I know people who buy a handgun and never take it to a range. Thats just ridiculous. Y'all are right about Wa. State. Its easy to buy anything here ifin you got money..Hey CM I too fish alot over thar on your side. I carry a 22 revolver for snakes. My shell is a 22lr with buckshot.

[ResQ]

Why doesnt PD do a sting when they get a few breakin reports? Just set up a dummy car and then nab the idiots. They do it with car prowlers in the streets, so why not at the launches? get them off the street.

[rjn cajun]

Why doesnt PD do a sting when they get a few breakin reports? Just set up a dummy car and then nab the idiots. They do it with car prowlers in the streets, so why not at the launches? get them off the street.

Are you kidding that would cost money.

[crappiemaster]

Yep rac, that's what I use for snakes. Never have had to use it though, The ones we have seen we have been able to move around them. My son passed his hunter's safety last year and we do a lot of target practicing. That is another reason I carry. there is always time to teach.

[Mike Carey]

Why doesnt PD do a sting when they get a few breakin reports? Just set up a dummy car and then nab the idiots. They do it with car prowlers in the streets, so why not at the launches? get them off the street.

Are you kidding that would cost money.

oh man, I'm trying to hold myself back...

BTW, I do agree there are a lot of people that act stupid and make stupid choices. I just don't think a mandatory gun course is going to suddenly give them the "pause and think" gene.

When I got my gun I spent a good amount of time researching and learning about gun safety, testing at a range, then practising with the gun. I'm not thinking of carrying at popular lakes that have lot's of people, but some of the isolated places I go, definately makes sense.

[Gringo Pescador]

Why doesnt PD do a sting when they get a few breakin reports? Just set up a dummy car and then nab the idiots. They do it with car prowlers in the streets, so why not at the launches? get them off the street.

Are you kidding that would cost money.

oh man, I'm trying to hold myself back...

BTW, I do agree there are a lot of people that act stupid and make stupid choices. I just don't think a mandatory gun course is going to suddenly give them the "pause and think" gene.

When I got my gun I spent a good amount of time researching and learning about gun safety, testing at a range, then practising with the gun. I'm not thinking of carrying at popular lakes that have lot's of people, but some of the isolated places I go, definately makes sense.

I am right there too, nothing I own is worth my life, but I will protect my life and my families. I've taken safety courses, done tons of research, been around em most of my life.

I just left hwy side or Reiter earlier this evening. The two cars next to mine both had windows broken out - mine and another rig didn't. Mine was empty with the glove box and all other compartments open. I looked around but didn't see anybody.

[edge540]

I Don't typically open carry but I always have a way to defend myself. I keep an old .22 in the whailer mostly for halibut and keep my grandpa's old 22 pistol in the tackle box in the little boat. There are alot of folks that get real nervous when they see your hog leg dangelin.

I do conceal my firearm when at a sketchy launch. If ever the situation comes up ill be ready, 90% of the time Im out fishing my 9 yo daughter is with me and she can center punch a pie plate with the one in the tackle box a hundred feet. Her Black lab sits in the boat while she holds it on the shore, I pitty annyone that "gives him a reason" to get out of the boat...

I was out with a buddie on lost lake years ago( the one up on snoqualame pass) we were way across the lake and watched a truck pull up next to his. about a minute passed and we could hear the alarm going off. With the Minnkota on 5 it would have taken 10 minutes to get there but after skipping some brass off the water in there general direction they left immediately. We pulled up after what seemed like an hour to find a broken window and nothing missing...

I like the little boat: I can tow it with my old Dakota and there is nothing inside so I just leave the doors unlocked and the windows down.

[Rich McVey]

That would be fantastic Rich! If you can safely catch the D-bags and have video proof of them and their faces to catch them, then that is THE way to go!

I started looking into this and will have a "Proof of concept" assembled soon. Next step will be to reduce the size and increase the stability of the system since I will be starting with an old laptop as the controller. Looking at the NI PXI controller as a smaller unit.

Main issues:

Size
Stability/Reliability
User input

Talking about Gun Safety... Did you hear that a Renton cop was shot and a Tukwilla cop was hit by shrapnel when another cop fired his gun... at the Auburn Police Shooting Range.

Be carefull out there folks!!

[Amx]

Yup, saw that story. Good thing they were at the range as is sounds like 'someone' need more gun control and MUCH more practice.

[Gringo Pescador]

That would be fantastic Rich! If you can safely catch the D-bags and have video proof of them and their faces to catch them, then that is THE way to go!

I started looking into this and will have a "Proof of concept" assembled soon. Next step will be to reduce the size and increase the stability of the system since I will be starting with an old laptop as the controller. Looking at the NI PXI controller as a smaller unit.

Main issues:

Size
Stability/Reliability
User input

Last night while driving home (after seeing the windows blown out of the cars parked next to me) I was thinking about this. My GoPro camera is small and can record up to 6 hours. But, how do you keep em from stealing the equipment?
One thought I had was maybe mount the equipment in a tree or something nearby.