washington hatchery fisheries

Talk all about trout here.
Forum rules
Forum Post Guidelines: This Forum is rated “Family Friendly”. Civil discussions are encouraged and welcomed. Name calling, negative, harassing, or threatening comments will be removed and may result in suspension or IP Ban without notice. Please refer to the Terms of Service and Forum Guidelines post for more information. Thank you
User avatar
Derrick-k
Commander
Posts: 552
Joined: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:49 pm
Location: kent Wa

washington hatchery fisheries

Post by Derrick-k » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:30 pm

Bass in washington are very prevolent, at least we have good hatchery programs in washington to keep the lake's full of nice fish, be it bass crappie bulegill sunfish muskie pike or rrainbow cutthroat brook and brown trout.
Last edited by Anonymous on Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:06 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Drewp
Commander
Posts: 389
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 4:39 pm
Location: seattle

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by Drewp » Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:36 pm

Ummm, no. And you should definitely not kill bass! They aren't nearly as big of a trout predator as you would think. Trout's biggest predator is you, and all other catch and keep fisherman. Bald Eagles and Osprey are huge trout predators...I supose your solution would include killing all of them to help out the trout?
"My fingers smell fishy and I like it."

User avatar
gpc
Admiral
Posts: 1773
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2007 10:01 pm
Location: Sea Tac

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by gpc » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:01 pm

Bass and trout can live in the same lake together and be fine. Some of the best trout lakes in the state also are the best bass and walleye lakes as well. But illegally planting bass or any fish in any lake is a bad thing, a very bad thing. Some lakes will advise you to kill sunfish and bass that were planted illegally. But there is reasons for that. One reason is there is a stunted population and they are eating all the food, another reason is they wont make it through certain times of the year. Then if it gets too out of control they will kill off the entire lake. In some situations the bass or any fish will grow to great size and numbers and are able to co-op together and they keep the fish in there. But either way its not a good idea to take the matter into your own hands.

User avatar
littleriver
Commander
Posts: 317
Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 5:24 pm
Location: Ethel, WA
Contact:

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by littleriver » Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:37 pm

I caught an 18" brown trout once that had a little 3 or 4 inch largemouth bass in it's stomach..

so trout apparently eat bass from time to time..
Fish doesn't smell "fishy" because it's fish. Fish smells "fishy" when it's rotten.

User avatar
Dustin07
Commodore
Posts: 965
Joined: Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:45 pm
Location: Enumclaw

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by Dustin07 » Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:59 pm

littleriver wrote:I caught an 18" brown trout once that had a little 3 or 4 inch largemouth bass in it's stomach..

so trout apparently eat bass from time to time..
LOL. that's awesome.

User avatar
tnj8222
Admiral
Posts: 1693
Joined: Sat May 12, 2007 9:42 pm
Location: Renton Highlands
Contact:

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by tnj8222 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 1:51 pm

lol gotta be carefull there are alot of bass heads on this site but i also fish for trout and panfish. there are many many lakes where bass and trout live together just fine.

but lakes like davis should not have had bass put in it. but you should never take it upon yourself to kill anyfish unless it is food.

what i am mad about is people killing other fish because there favorite fish competes for food with the fish they dont like.
Anthony
http://static.photobucket.com/player.sw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... EO0054.mp4
if everyday was a good day there would be alot more fisherman.

bpm2000
Captain
Posts: 605
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:19 am
Location: seattle

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by bpm2000 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 2:45 pm

people also dont seem to realize that a lot of trout species are non-native as well.

User avatar
Bigbass Dez
Admiral
Posts: 1597
Joined: Wed May 23, 2007 9:16 am
Location: Bothell

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by Bigbass Dez » Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:01 pm

I dont think that Killing bass in any lake any where in america is a good ideal period . Too even suggest that tells me alot your nature derrick ! we are sportsman and fisherman of many types of fish , and True sportmans would not make comments like this .please tell me your kidding ? how would you feel if someone said lets kill all the trout and replace them with bass ? i dont like your comment dude ! AND YOU CALL YOURSELF A FISHERMAN , I CAN THINK OF A BETTER WORD .....but what good would it do ...GRRRR ....:-# :rambo: :thumbdown [-x [-x [-x
Last edited by Anonymous on Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:03 pm, edited 1 time in total.


Dobyns Rods
http://www.dobynsrods.com/

Panic Minnow
http://density-tackle.com/

3 Rivers marine
3riversmarine.com


B.A.S.S member
F.L.W. member
T.B.F member

Official WashingtonLakes.com Video Consultant

User avatar
fishnislife
Admiral
Posts: 2630
Joined: Fri May 11, 2007 8:33 am
Location: Kitsap County
Contact:

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by fishnislife » Tue Jul 10, 2007 9:30 pm

Drewp wrote:Ummm, no. And you should definitely not kill bass! They aren't nearly as big of a trout predator as you would think. Trout's biggest predator is you, and all other catch and keep fisherman. Bald Eagles and Osprey are huge trout predators...I supose your solution would include killing all of them to help out the trout?
Or we could just kill and eat each other like fish do. That would help us out and the fish too. :clown:
Bass eat more of themselves than any other species.
I agree with Drewp on this one Derrick-k. The biggest predator of the trout species is catch and keep fisherman. This is the most detrimental thing to a species than anything else. Mother nature has a way of controlling itself (balancing) and we are the ones who screw it up.
Why do you think trout have to be stocked so often. Most lakes are like an aquarium. Or a holding tank for trout just waiting to get to the dinner plate.
If you threw a handful of trout in a strictly bass lake, I bet in a couple of years you would have both species successfully co-existing with healthy fish of both species.
Ever fished a catch and release only fishery? The only way to go. Best fishing ever.


fishnislife
Image
Fish, Baits, Tournaments & BBQ's, Scenic Pictures, Hunting and World Record Pix:
http://s27.photobucket.com/albums/c176/fishnislife/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

User avatar
CK14
Lieutenant
Posts: 268
Joined: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:50 pm
Location: Edmonds, WA

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by CK14 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:50 pm

fishnislife wrote:Bass eat more of themselves than any other species.
that reminds me of an ad in an old issue of bass master magazine...

Man vs. Bass

Man: Teaches his children how to fish
Bass: Eats its children

Advantage: Man

i always loved that ad. LOL

jbball50
Commander
Posts: 457
Joined: Fri May 25, 2007 1:55 pm
Location: Bremerton,WA

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by jbball50 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 11:33 pm

Another thing is that some species are able to survive better in some areas of water than others because of what is in the water and all that biological bs that they do studies with on lakes.

GJorgy
Warrant Officer
Posts: 110
Joined: Tue May 01, 2007 3:58 pm
Location: Stanwood WA

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by GJorgy » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:43 am

You have to think of it as a balance of opportunities. When the water is cooler the trout are active and taste great, in the warmer months when the trout dont taste as good (think mud) then the bass are active and alot of fun to catch. If you don't limit yourself to a single species then you will probably save yourself alot of grief and frustration. I've personally hit bass that were pushing 8 or 9 pounds. Not many lakes around here that can boast a trout over 5 pounds except for the trips and the broodstock they plant.
George Patton:"Live for something rather than die for nothing."

User avatar
panfisher
Captain
Posts: 843
Joined: Mon May 07, 2007 6:50 am
Location: Yakima, WA

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by panfisher » Wed Jul 11, 2007 5:17 pm

this is the same attitude i've seen with small lakes that are basically put and take trout fisheries. i've seen the (managers) of these lakes kill off a lake that had an awsome panfishery just so they can put hatchery trout back in it. i guess that i've never seen bass wipe out a trout population. seems to me it's more than likely the improper management by the fishing public, not to many bass will eat 8-14'' trout but i know many people that do! <')//<

User avatar
EdmondsBassMan
Warrant Officer
Posts: 152
Joined: Tue Jun 19, 2007 11:13 am
Location: Lynnwood
Contact:

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by EdmondsBassMan » Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:19 pm

I would just like to echo what others have said here. That is an insane statement and I hope after reading all these comments your attitude has changed. I would like to add that how often do you see bass fishermen lined up elbow to elbow on opening day trying to catch everything in a particular lake. I'm originally from NJ and I would not even think of going fishing on opening day for trout because it was a total zoo! If you like trout so much buy them at the store they are the same ones you are catching all grown on a farm! Have a nice day and may you catch a big bass!
WORK IS FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO FISH!

EdmondsBassman AKA Jerz Jay

User avatar
YellowBear
Captain
Posts: 629
Joined: Wed May 02, 2007 9:44 am
Location: Potholes

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by YellowBear » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:40 am

If you limit yourself to one species you are missing out on some great fishing.
I like to fish for Trout in the winter when the water is cold and the fish are firm.
In the spring as things begin to warm a bit I turn my attention to the Walleye.
When the water temps start to hit the 50s its Bassin time.
On those slow days I am more than happy to catch a bunch of Panfish.
Nothing beats a good night on the bank with a buddy or two setting hooks on the Catfish.
If you want some tackle bustin action try the lowly Carp.
YellowBear
Life member N.A.F.C.
Angling Masters international
Good luck and be safe

User avatar
Derrick-k
Commander
Posts: 552
Joined: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:49 pm
Location: kent Wa

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by Derrick-k » Fri Jul 13, 2007 7:30 pm

It may not be non native fish eating all the trout, but ocasionaly they can overrun them in smaller lakes.


I agree that people are a big preadetor of trout, but how comee everyone always thinks that it is such a crime to kill a bass.
Last edited by Anonymous on Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:08 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Kenster
Lieutenant
Posts: 201
Joined: Mon May 07, 2007 12:30 pm
Location: South King

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by Kenster » Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:32 pm

i've seen more salmon smolt in a pike minnow!!!! big deal!! ive caught trout who have wasted my time while i was targeting bass... guess what ...I ATE them!! trout fishing is for kids!! Okay LOL!! even if i caught a bass and gilled him to the point of no return i would fillet him too! i fish for sport, but will eat not to waste.:fish:
Last edited by Anonymous on Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
dbaker
Petty Officer
Posts: 84
Joined: Sun May 20, 2007 12:09 am
Location: Kennewick

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by dbaker » Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:53 pm

Kenster way to insult probably half the membership of this site.

User avatar
Derrick-k
Commander
Posts: 552
Joined: Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:49 pm
Location: kent Wa

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by Derrick-k » Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:05 am

thank you dbaker, even though I an a huskie fan lol!

User avatar
dbaker
Petty Officer
Posts: 84
Joined: Sun May 20, 2007 12:09 am
Location: Kennewick

RE:washington hatchery fisheries

Post by dbaker » Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:08 pm

so you're not perfect. :-" At least you like to fish.

Post Reply